I know and what I’m saying is that all those project are moving very slowly while projects like GraphneOS/LineageOS already offer open, privacy oriented phones with good hardware and lot’s of apps. This is simply where more effort is going, where we’re seeing more progress and our best chance at getting “Linux phones”.
Yes, Android has issues but what I’m saying is that so far Linux on phones really hasn’t been able to compete. No one want’s a phone with no camera, no GPS, no apps and terrible battery. Making Linux phones is just super difficult and sadly I don’t see it happening anytime soon. Android is a good platform with lots of hardware and apps. You have Fairphone offering long tern support, f-droid offering privacy oriented apps and LineageOS offering stable OS. Getting more phoes to support it is a better bet than getting Linux to properly work on modern phones.
Yes, it’s all true but the issue is you can already do a lot of those things with a lot of cheap hardware that is is simply easier to support than old phones. And when it comes to phones being phones Android is really good and has a lot of apps. I think the problem with Linux phones getting more popular is that the overlap between desktop/server and mobile is very small. I mean I use my phone only for phone things and a lot of things I do on my phone I can do only on my phone (e.g. charging an electric car is basically impossible without a Android/iPhone). Having a phone that can do some things desktop/server can do but can’t do a lot of things a phone can do is pretty much pointless at this point.
When we’ll get a proper Linux phone with full Android apps support and convergence it will be really awesome but I just don’t think there’s enough interest to get there at this point.
I honestly don’t really get what there is to gain by using “Desktop Linux”.
More freedom I guess. I remember my n900 and how fun it was to just ssh into it and dig in my home directory, install apps with packet manger, edit config files with vi and so on. It really felt like having small Linux machine in my pocket. With Android everything is definitely more locked up but then again, I’m not sure what would I do if it was more open. Writing apps for Android is easier than for desktop (or just as easy), there are no more hardware keyboard phones so using terminal on them is terrible anyway and phones just work anyway so there’s no need to mess with the configuration. Personally I mostly gave up on the ‘Linux phone’ idea and if I need any new features I will simply write cross platform app that runs on Android (for example with tauri).
AOSP. Sad but true.
When first pinephone came out I really believed it’s heading somewhere. It thought that it will be kind of like raspberry Pi (fun, cheap platform to play with) and that we’ll quickly see copycats and it will slowly grow the way Linux on desktop did. AFAIK nothing like this happened. You still can’t get a phone with decent Linux support which for me shows that we’re stuck with android. I think most people that would help Linux phone happen are simply satisfied with LineageOS so there’s no incentive to put as much effort into it as it requires.
But you need 2024 phone to run it.
What’s wrong with clevo rebrands?
What you said (if I understand you correctly, you didn’t give any examples) boils down to breaking standards established by the current browsers. The standards that web developers and servers universally follow. If you want to build browser that will not follow standards you might just as well render HTML in non-standars ways. Most pages will not work anyway.
Did you ever had to buy a new laptop because Linux stopped supporting the current one?
What is it about then? Rendering HTML and CSS in a new, fun way?
Ok, so what do you want your 4th, new browser to do differently? What’s so different about it that you can’t build it on top of Gecko?
he internet is in desperate need of an alternative to the Chrome/Mozilla/Safari trio.
No it’s not. You have lots and lots of different browsers. Do we need another browser engine? Also not. They all do the same thing so while it’s good to have some competition we definitely don’t need yet another one.
If you can browse the web on them they can be worth a lot to some kid.
You have to many usable laptops laying around. Put an ad on craiglist or something and give them out. I once put an ad like that and exchanged old laptop for a really good chocolate.
85% after 2.5 years is not good. My car battery has guarante of 80% capacity after 6 years. 20% of range is a significant difference so I take car of my battery and don’t charge it above 80% if not needed. It’s the same with laptops. Current models can easily last 5-10 years but having only 50% of capacity after that time would be a problem. Sure, if you’re intending to throw it out after 3 years it doesn’t really matter but if you want to use it for as long as possible you definitely should take care of the battery. It’s pretty much the only part that degrades (except maybe keyboard).
Yeah, I had the same issue. Sometimes it was the SD card, sometimes the network interface (not your case obviously), sometimes things connected to USB, sometimes it was running hot… I gave up and now I just run everything on an older Slimbook Zero. Yes, power consumption is higher (still pretty low) but so is stability.
What? You’re confused. I’m saying he’s a Finn. The other guy says he’s Swedish.
For all we know Locke is a SciFi movie about guy living in the year 2050 and refusing to use modern phones and cars due to privacy concerns.
Yes but the SciFi movies are not about people living in wood shacks so we don’t see them.
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I was using phones with hardware keyboards for way too long and never really learned to type on screen keyboards. Now I just hate them and use desktop communicators whenever I can.