You’re not wrong, but the underlying traits that make them that way is also what drives them to build FOSS software instead of maximizing their income potential at any and all costs. Meanwhile, most users just suuuuuuuck.

It shouldn’t fall on developers, but maybe the community should normalize finding a willing representative willing to listen to all the hot garbage the community throws at devs and have that person monitor various channels then relay only the relevant stuff to the Dev. Cause as it stands, difficult or not, FOSS devs are working for free and dont deserve the hate they get.

I had a similarly nightmarish experience with Asus over their phone some years ago. I was a long time Asus fan in the PC sphere, now none of my tech is ASUS.

I’m happy to block people. I don’t owe anybody my time or energy, if they’re tedious and annoying in situation a, they probably will be in B as well.

Its the internet, I just dont care. I’m going to make my experience tolerable and if I can’t I’ll leave. 🤷‍♂️

That seems to be the case for me. My app (connect) won’t let me interact with those users but IIRC on web I can (don’t take my word though its been a while.)

This is the way I’ve come to look at it: non-violence is ideal, but non-violence is one of many “languages.” (Obviously here we’re just talking about violence, but yknow some is political, some is social, etc.) Some people can speak many of these, some people only speak one or refuse to use others (like how you say you will only use nonviolence.)

The issue is that some people only speak one language, and aren’t going to “understand” (be persuaded or moved by) others no matter what. A bigot only understands hate and emotion so they aren’t going to be swayed from that position by logic or facts because they don’t “speak” that language.

What I’m getting at, is that for people who only speak violence - non-violence doesn’t mean anything to them except an easy target. They aren’t going to consider your viewpoint because you won’t fight back, they won’t back down because “clearly you aren’t a threat.” They’re going to violence until they reach their ends. With somebody like that, you have to “speak their language.”

Of course on an individual level you (maybe) can get the police to handle it, but on a social level like dealing with nazis you have to keep them scared of return violence. They are violent by nature (the entire ideology is elimination of undesirables) and should be treated as such. Let them know that we punch nazis. Let them know they aren’t the only ones with guns and unlike most of them we go to the range. Let them know if they wear iron crosses and shit they’re getting kicked the fuck out. Fuck them, and let them know we’d be happy to fuck em up if they want to give us the opportunity.

I’m generally anti-violence myself, but I’m also a large guy so I’m lucky enough to be able to avoid it. I can’t bring myself to be a pacifist though. Knocking some kid around is easy come take a swing at me and see how it goes. Shrug

Maybe I missed it being mentioned elsewhere, but I think the writeup I’m familiar fits well with this angle of the discussion. Basically, it says tolerance is a social contract that we’re all born into and protected by so long as we uphold our part of the contract (by being tolerant.) If you are intolerant then you break that contract and are no longer protected by it, therefore making intolerance toward you acceptable and not a breach of the contract for others.

(Also, I agree that religions/race/etc are invalid for judging somebody’s tolerance)

Its jot newgrounds if it doesn’t end in violence ❤️

BuT i ToW (once every 3 years)

Isnt it a Chevy pulling a jet in the old ad making the rounds? I’m sure that Chevy would be fucked after doing THAT a few times but it would handle your stupid uhaul sized trailer just fine.

And then if anyone mentions it or posts about some of them will go on a tirade about how they’re actually the hero cause if they don’t take up 4 spots they’re going to stick out into the lane/street.

Strong social nets that allow people breathing room to allow more interest in how their computers work?

Literally waiting on a friend to give me their laptop for this purpose lol

I don’t discriminate.

#AllCocks

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Same problem, now I just flip it upside down when not in use.

I understand the face value of it, but I really hate the argument of (basically) “Linux isnt going to take off until it just becomes Windows (or emulates it perfectly click for click)”

People always act like Linux is less buttery smooth two click accessible as a style choice, but cranking out a system like that and keeping it up costs money. If Linux dedicated to supporting every dongle on the planet themselves and all this other shiz, they’d have to monetize too.

So much less now needs the terminal. Personally, I don’t get why people don’t mind doing a search to find where windows hid some particular setting 3 submenus deep, but lose their fucking mind over the thought of doing a search to double check which command they need.

Linux doesn’t need to change, people’s priorities need to shift. This obsession with free services and not having to know shit about how shit works is how we got here, and shaking that is the only way out. For example, People will recognize that google is bad but if you point out you can get a domain and basic email hosting for $20/yr or whatever, its always “sucks teeth yeaaaaa but i dont have $20 for something like that and idk how stuff works” conveniently, you dont need to “yeaaaaa, but nooooooo”

Like, I hate cars, but I can’t imagine not knowing how to change a tire or my oil, etc basic stuff, but there are people who call AAA when they get a flat. Its nuts to me.

Well damn I want turkey now lol

I think I read there was a big nvidia compatibility fix for Wayland coming down the pipeline, but who knows when it’ll reach distros.

Again, if you can’t be “fun” without offending people - You aren’t fun, you’re a dick.

You’ll be fine! Linux isn’t all that and a bag of chips anymore as long as you’re open to an occasional internet search.

I recognize that Linux isn’t perfect, but people who say it isn’t “ready for users” are people who want to have their cake and eat it too - Want the multi billion dollar polish of windows but with the respectfulness of FOSS (Free Open Source Software.)

Of course, its possible to strip windows of most of its nonsense but again most users would rather die than do a simple search. 🤷

If you did, you’d know it isn’t about “being offended by more every year” - its recognizing that something is offensive to others and adjusting because some of us have better shit to do than being rude cause its “fun.”

If you can’t be fun without low hanging fruit gay jokes, you’re probably not actually that fun. 🤷