Banned from lemmygrad? Impressive.

You might like a new game i just saw the trailer for called Kingmaker.

Takes all human knowledge back in time

Starts pillaging villages

Yawn

Sure, yeah, claim like “yeah it’s ethical to eat fish” with no reasoning behind it despite much prompting. You’re basically claiming the that either the points I’ve mentioned are not things that happen, or that they are totally ethical to do. So I’m not going to waste my time.

Thanks again for the thorough explanation of why you believe all of these related ethical issues are not related.

Thanks again, your compliments mean so much to me.

So, you consider it ethical to bycatch, fish species to extinction, destroy marine environments and pollute the ocean freely despite there being ample alternatives to receive the nutrients you can get from fish? Please explain how these are irrelevant. Unless you personally catch each of your fish?

That’s not really how ethical problems work. They are supposed to define why we should or shouldn’t do something. Even saying “nah dawg, fish tasty” would be more reasoning than you’ve provided.

Thanks, it’s difficult to have a discussion with people when they won’t actually engage in a discussion.

So because eating fish has ethical problems it’s ethical to eat them?

Very well thought out.

So you’re only addressing the dumb point… despite some of these not being considered intelligent, they still have central nervous systems and therefore feel pain. That’s a very basic ethical concern. Why is intelligence the only concern? Should we eat all the dumber humans?

Bycatch is also an issue in this point because innocent and more intelligent creatures like dolphin and octopus will be caught, killed and not even eaten.

What “supposed” ethical problems are you referring to that you’re hand waving away then? That farm animals are cute? How about overfishing, destruction of marine environments, bycatch, pollution caused by and left in the sea by fishing, evidence that fish feel pain and that some are proven to have more complex intelligence than other animals.

Hey everyone, this guy doesn’t believe in ethics so we can all do whatever we want!

Calm down Aquaman.

What about bycatch? That’s a factor in both. Also ecological: the fact that most of the plastic waste in the sea (and on earth in general) is from fishing. Also, not all seafood is dumb. Octopus is one of the smartest things out there and we eat that. Lobsters have been shown to feel pain and we boil them alive.

There’s a fish nibbling on me right now and i didn’t even notice!

“Would you like fries with that?”

“Would you like to supersize that?”

“We have an offer on…”

“Paying by card? Type your pin into that well used machine. Cash? OK hand me the piece of paper that have touched hundreds of hands and maybe nostrils”

You also have a skeleton inside you. The body is a terrifying place.