Nefyedardu

it actually is, you just append the distrobox command before it

distrobox enter arch -- yay -Sy appname

Games are the only software I purchase these days

Is there anything stopping something like connecting your credit card to GNOME Software Manager and then putting a big fat “donate” button next to the “install” button? I imagine there are legal considerations.

I don’t know why it’s become a stigma that installing things on Linux is hard when Windows requires you to Google sketchy .exes and .msis because their app store is so trash. For 99% of packages on Linux you can just open the software manager and click install.

None of those commands install drivers on linux tho. What audio driver couldn’t you install?

All you do is update your current system, change your repo sources to whatever branch you want, then do a full-upgrade. For branches there is stable, testing, and unstable (called sid). They don’t recommend you use sid for everyday use, things can be buggy (currently sid is on GNOME 44 at any rate). Instructions

Do you just look for things to get mad at? This hasn’t even been implemented yet. Even if it had, it would be opt-in. And even if you opt-in, the data is all anonymous and you would be able to see exactly the data that gets sent out. If Fedora or anyone else really wanted to spy on you, I assure you they wouldn’t let you know beforehand.

They don’t need to be packaged at the time of creation anyway, they can be packaged right now. Distrobox makes this easy, like let’s say you need an application that only works on Ubuntu 18.04. It’s two commands:

distrobox create --image ubuntu:18.04 ubuntu

distrobox enter ubuntu -- sudo apt-get install _package_

Then to export the package to your desktop you can even do

distrobox enter ubuntu -- distrobox export --app _application_

Boom, you have an Ubuntu 18.04 application on an OS of your choosing. You can theoretically do this with any distro, distrobox can use any OCI images from docker-hub, quay.io, or any registry of your choice.

I mean not really, Appimage has been around since 2004, flatpak/docker for about a decade now. But at any rate I don’t see your point, the person I replied to said it’s hard to run old applications on Linux and I gave him solutions on how to do that. What does their age have to do with anything?

If it isn’t a Microsoft sanctioned solution, then multiple third party solutions exists that fix it.

That’s not how this works. If it’s not a Microsoft-sancioned solution, it literally cannot be fixed no matter how much effort you put in. You need an API to work with Windows. If Microsoft does not provide you with an API, you can’t do it. And even if you find a way to hack together something, you have zero guarantee an update won’t just come along and fuck it. Linux distros are open source, you can change quite literally any thing about them. That is what that person was talking about.

Appimage, Snap, Flatpak, Docker, Podman, Distrobox, Toolbox…

Trying to use proprietary drivers and NTFS on Linux is trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. People work hard to make it work and maybe it does with a little effort but the proprietary model and Linux distros just don’t mesh well together. If you make it a point to purchase hardware that has open source drivers and use open source software (and as a consumer, you probably should anyway), everything does just work. Obviously this may not suit your use case and Linux may just not be for you.

laughs in flatpak

going into a menu on windows to change some settings once is a bridge too fucking far

“Once”. Yeah right.

That’s an app launcher, not a systems tray

If you minimize a window, it goes into a list of “Background Apps” in the charms menu where the only option you have is to close it. There’s no native systems tray.

I just don’t get the vendetta GNOME has against background processes. GNOME devs just don’t use email clients, cloud sync applications, chat clients…? GNOME treats my Nextcloud sync app (which I NEED to be running at all times) as if it was malware or something.

I’ve had a lot of issues with archinstall in the past as well, doesn’t surprise me that it wouldn’t set your network clock correctly

If anybody is so clueless about Linux that they need to take a quiz like this, they should probably just use something easy like Mint or Ubuntu.

Flatpak doesn’t run the latest stuff typically. Like I’m on Mesa 23.1.4 on Flatpak and 23.1.6 on Fedora. Probably newer than what Ubuntu has though.