Sorry to clarify: updates come as security or as feature updates. If I’ve already got a standard operating environment (SOE) with all the features I/staff need to do work, I don’t need new features.

I then have to watch cves with my cve trackers to know when software updates are needed and all devices with those software get updated and the SOE is updated.

I can go on a rant about how bad the Linux has recently made my life as someone’s policy is that any Linux bug might be a security vulnerability and therefore I now have infinite noise in my cve feed, which in turn is making decisions on how to mitigate security issues hard, but that is beyond this discussion.

So in short I’m only talking about when you update, updating only security fixes, not the software and features. Live patching security vulnerabilities is pretty much free low effort, low impact, and in my personal opinion, absolutely critical. But software features patching can be disruptive, leaves little to be gained, and really only should be driven for a request to need that feature at which point it would also include an update to the SOE.

Inertia is just a sign of maturity. It’s fine. Nothing wrong with it. Especially when the new stuff is happening along side it. In 10 years there may be people asking why you’re using arch or nix, when whatever new thing is superior. But it’ll just be proof that nix can run in production for 10+ years.

Yeah I have constant crashes back to login screen but never have I seen a kernel panic except before a system boots. Mm a few exceptions

Oh you got a good chuckle out of me

They probably have been using it for years, and for the last more then a decade I’ve been using Ubuntu as my main Linux distribution since I have work to do and I’ll get to doing work faster in ubuntu than any other distribution.

Why did I start with Ubuntu? 10+ years ago Ubuntu was lightyears ahead for community support for issues. Again, I had work to do, I wasn’t hobbyist playing “fuck windows”.

In fact look at things like ROS where you can get going with “apt install ros-noetic-desktop” and now you can build your robotics stuff instantly. Every dependency to start and all the other tooling is there too. Sure a bunch of people would now say “use nix” but my autonomous robotics project doesn’t care I am trying to get lidar, camera, motors, and SLAM algorithms to work. I don’t want to care or think about compiling ROS for some arch distribution.

I won’t say I don’t dabble with other distributions but if I’ve got work to do, I’m going to use the tools I already know better than the back of my hand. And at the time, when selecting these tools, Ubuntu had it answered and is stable enough to have been unchanging for basically a decade.

Oh and if I needed to, I could pay and get support so the CEO can hear that risk is gone too (despite almost every other vendor we pay never actually resolving a issue before we find and fix it… Though I do like also being able to say “we have raised a ticket with vendor x and am waiting on a reply”).

From my perspective, if used for work, automatic security updates should be mandatory. Linux is damn impressive with live patch. With thousands or even tens of thousands of endpoints, it’s negligent to not patch.

Features? Don’t care. But security updates are essential in a large organisation.

The worst part of the Linux fan base is the users who hate forced updates, and also don’t believe in AV. Ok on your home network that’s not very risky compared to a corp network with a million student and staff personal information often with byo devices only a network segment away and APT groups targeting you because they know your reputation is worth something to ransom.

Mac book pro from 2012 still going, not strong, Bluetooth barely works, there’s a dying row of pixels, on the screen, the CPU doesn’t seem to support any modem video codec in accelerated mode, and the speakers were clearly garbage and it doubles how bad the Bluetooth is. But it’s running pop os! And it’s running it fine. I mean as long as you connect via rustdesk to another real machine to do real work. It can’t handle tabs or browser rendering…

Anyway even if i retire it today, it’s outlasted 3 work laptops.

I’ve seen similar on my desktop on proton when on wake it crashes the display manager and shows my locked desktop unlocked with all the running applications before it finishes crashing closing all my applications and then going back to login screen.

You’re right. Both cloud services (like Microsoft 365 measured by licensing) and azure each individually are about double Windows. They together make over half of Microsoft’s earnings while Windows is like 16%. Then you’ve got games and linkedin and others filling up the smaller %.

Microsoft doesn’t need Windows, you can run your office 365 off Mac or Linux for all they care. Just host all your virtual workloads on azure regardless of OS if it’s not serverless, and they’re fine with taking that money.

This thread teaches me that generally, most Linux people are looking at windows. Meanwhile Microsoft only thinks Windows is 16% of its business.

Basically, it seems, most Linux users do not think hard about Microsoft.

Yeah, my mum isn’t going into the shell. She’s 65.

I don’t really like the idea of ‘beginner friendly’ like ‘you’ll get better and start doing it the real way’. It’s not some esport where it’s easy to play and hard to master, it’s a toolbox where it’s only job is to get out of the way of you accessing your tools.

Operating systems are middleware.

Yes, you’re right about voltage and amp combined, but the problem is modern phones and their charges don’t generally want to be doing high amps at 5v, they increase their voltage to 9v, 15v or, 20v. Which like you would point out, is not the right voltage.

Personally I just feed 5v in via a ubec like this: https://core-electronics.com.au/ubec-dc-dc-step-down-buck-converter-5v-at-3a-output.html since I usually have some kind of 12v battery powered thing going on with mine and lots of 12v ac-dc adapters for bench testing and charging. Lots of ways to power them but it’s definitely not just ‘grab your usb-c charger and it’ll be right’ which can be frustrating for people since it’s almost all other usb-c things will ‘just work’.

That’s so cool

I have a feeling it did because I remember watching early rtsp multicast streams of the anime initial D found through winamp in like 1999 at 240p. It’s so long ago that I’m not even sure that’s a correct memory.

After installing mint, and you find a problem, just live boot mint again.

You can do a lot in live boot including mount your permanent copy even the kernel. Whatever is missing you can download put onto the installed hdd or usb storage, and then install.

Ask me how I know. Lol.

Or maybe they’re trying to keep their system minimised from yet to be found security issues in the hundreds of packages pre installed that they don’t ever use or need, and act as nothing other than additional threat surface.

I’m not going to argue strongly for this, but there’s a certain irony that if the defender suite (defender for identity, defender for cloud apps, fervently for office, and defender for endpoint) was instantly unlocked in their plan 2 version for every subscriber for free, that would kill a huge segment of the security market including some of the industry leaders like SentinelOne huntress labs, and even SEIM providers like splunk and Arctic wolf and dozens more. The XDR and identity management industry would instantly be forced into an anti competitive environment.

There’s an argument for ‘but if they built it secure, then you wouldn’t need to bolt on detections’. I think a relevant metaphor is you buy a house, but then you add detection like cameras and intrusion detection. Make sure the locks on the doors and windows aren’t bypassed.

So I would think there is some nuance. And frankly for small business the cost for m365 business premium which has all of that, including a bunch of information protection and data loss prevention. You just actually have more of a configuration requirement that nearly none of my customers I onboard ever have done…

The messaging around this so far doesn’t lead me to want to follow the fork on production. As a sysadmin I’m not rushing out to swap my reverse proxy.

The problem is I’m speculating but it seems like the developer was only continuing to develop under condition that they continued control over the nginx decision making.

So currently it looks like from a user of nginx, the cve registration is protecting me with open communication. From a security aspect, a security researcher probably needs that cve to count as a bug bounty.

From the developers perspective, f5 broke the pact of decision control being with the developer. But for me, I would rather it be registered and I’m informed even if I know my configuration doesn’t use it.

Again, assuming a lot here. But I agree with f5. That feature even beta could be in a dev or test environment. That’s enough reason to know.

Edit:Long term, I don’t know where I’ll land. Personally I’d rather be with the developer, except I need to trust that the solution is open not in source, but in communication. It’s a weird situation.

Digging tunnels.

IP and Routing is layer 3, broadcast is layer 2 with Mac addresses being shared within a broadcast domain (often a vlan/lan) and the only requirement for layer 2 is a switch you don’t need routers. Devices on a lan talk only via switches which switch based on Mac address tables. You don’t learn Mac addresses of devices past your broadcast domain, that’s what a router handles.

So in network practice (nothing Linux related) if you are on a broadcast network that’s a /24 subnet, what should happen is all devices within that subnet talk to each other without using a router, instead they learn a mac address and the associated ip from a broadcast from the device which owns it.

If you tell your device that it’s only on a /32 then it should discard every arp it hears as invalid. Which means it won’t learn any neighbouring lan devices.

While your network on your single device with the /32 probably works ok to get to other networks (routed networks like internet or other vlans), because other networks ask the router, and the router probably learned your mac and ip on whatever vlan/interface your device is connected via.

But unless you’re trying to do something unconventional, devices on a lan should match the routers expected subnet. This way devices can trust their assumption that within their subnet they communicate to other local devices by learning other network devices network address via arp, and communicate directly in unicast via learned ips from that arp. If it’s outside the subnet they then look to the gateway. They trust the gateway. The gateway should route to the right interface or next hop.

If you really wanted to make this work though, usually routers can proxy arp. So in this case, you tell the router to ‘oroxy’ and broadcast your arp to other devices. Those devices on your lan looking for your ip will find the routers Mac address, then using destination network address translation you can redirect the incoming connection from a lan device to your device via your router. Then your /32 ip can probably work. Usually this is done when someone has put a static ip on a device with a wrong subnet ip on a vlan with another subnet. So the device which arps is ignored by the router and the other network devices. If you use the router to proxy arp you can basically give the local lan devices an ip to hit that they expect, which then you can translate to the misconfigured device. This generally is considered a bandaid solution temporary until a vendor or technician can fix their misconfiguration. I do not recommend.