Debates need multiple consenting participants, so arguing unprompted from out of nowhere is bound to gather annoyance

I know you’re joking but I’ll answer that it’s not a nice to sweat in warm clothing but have it cool down in skin-contact

If you did tighten, DO NOT LOOSEN.

I wouldn’t draw distinct lines between them. The same situation is happening everywhere however we want to name it.

Is this news for you?

Sadly extreme behavior seems to be an effect everywhere as this global late stage capitalism is causing people to lose agency and become more and more disturbed

Just gotta try more

Interesting! I’ve recently struggled with dark reader memory leaks so I’ll check this out

Edit: No scheduled/automatic follow system mode yet, but I’ll keep watching for updates

Huh, that’s so random

Income, expenses, savings percentage, portfolio size, age

I’d love to work in areas, communities and industries which don’t have the resources to usually pay for professional skills. Just gotta detach from the time waste of getting salary to live first.

Just the goal of removing the mandatory quality of working. Free from work. Quitting forever. Every day a personal choice. To use professional skills for helping those who need them instead of benefiting capitalists.

I’ll skip the details, it’d be too long to write now.

No I don’t mean I’ve quit trying. I mean that I am past needing the will to try. I’m equipped with it forever, and am actively continuing to pursue solutions.

Sure. I appreciate the view, even though I can’t verify if a lack of trying is a common thing or not. Personally I’m past that issue.

I think you might’ve misunderstood?

I don’t have that argument (or any arguments) in any of my comments and I don’t believe there’s a single solution to everyone.

I have only been interested in the framework that relies only on trying to see if there’s anything new to apply to my or any different situation.

Clarifying(?) edit:

Sure I think I see you champion a mindset shift, and that is definitely what most people would first need. In addition to that, there’s hard math that needs to work. Similarly; a person might want to become an entrepreneur, they have that anxiety or fear of leaping to the unknown I detect from your message. When they cross that barrier, they also need to have the numbers which are sustainable. A wonderful can-do attitude and trying again and again but with failing numbers isn’t enough.

Personally I’d agree on similar values and goals but my personal anecdote side tracks from the point of an accessible solution to anyone. Even I’m in a more privileged situation than an average human and still have issues with the income-expense equation yet to solve, not for a lack of trying.

What’s your (or any master/guru you know) guidance for people to stop working. Is it truly catch-all and trying is enough?

I’m very interested in the topic and love new perspectives

OK.

Geographical numbers vary but let’s say an office worker needs something between 1200–2700 eurodollars per month for expenses. They might have a loan on their housing or they might rent. Maybe they have some hundreds, or even a few ten thousands in savings generating a bit in compound interest. They like to live where they live or live half of the year there and the rest elsewhere or have a few vacation trips. Maybe they’d want to spend the time not working anymore with their family, or enjoy culture, or learn new things, or keep themselves functional by exercising. Maybe they find a volunteer group that does something meaningful to the world which could take time.

Another case could be some sweatshop worker, where the daily pay is a bowl of food. No cash income, no higher education.

Ah, forgot you had two topics. I was replying about quitting working

Maybe, maybe not. For now all the approaches I’ve found out, heard, ideated have glaring problems, are very unique to the person, or rely on external factors not available to all.

I’ll always appreciate new concrete information or solution guides, but lack of trying isn’t the pitfall.