Lemmy doesn’t seem to get much recognition in the wider Fediverse - it tends to get bundled as part of ‘other apps’. Mastodon is much bigger, so better integration with Lemmy probably gets deprioritised below their own issues and feature requests (e.g. I was reading today that Markdown support is often requested, but the base version still doesn’t have it)

I don’t think it’s technically impossible - all the information that another site needs to properly interpret some activity is in the JSON that’s sent. I get the sense that it might be unrealistic to expect Mastodon to make the necessary changes though. It seems more of a political issue than a technical one.

It’s partly an issue of keys. Every fediverse actor has a private key and a public key. When my instance sends this to fediverse@lemmy.world, it’s signed by my private key, and lemmy.world uses my public key to verify it. When fediverse@lemmy.world sends this comment out, it uses it’s own private key to sign it. It can’t just re-transmit my comment, because it doesn’t have my private key. All it can do is Announce that I’ve made the comment (and sign the Announce).

Mastodon treats Announces as Boosts, so every post/comment is interpreted as a thing that fediverse@lemmy.world has boosted, so you get all these un-connected posts appearing. I think it’s mostly up to Mastodon to remedy.

It works better if a Mastodon actor posts into a Lemmy community, then you get the mix like you imagine. e.g.: https://mastodon.world/@Flash/112095241193510662 (this particular post was crowbarred into Lemmy via !tails@lemmon.website, but it would be the same if the author had done it.)

Not quite, no. I know what it isn’t at least.

I’ll keep going - I’m sure the article’s author is someone who genuinely uploaded some confidential info and then became really involved with privacy/GDPR etc, and not someone who was always been really involved with privacy/GDPR issues and now has a story to fit.

I’m gonna find this guy’s image …

https://monero.town/pictrs/image/00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000.jpeg … nope
https://monero.town/pictrs/image/00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000001.jpeg … nope
https://monero.town/pictrs/image/00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000002.jpeg … nope
https://monero.town/pictrs/image/00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000003.jpeg … nope

Mmm, I’m sure it won’t take long. Just have to remember to do it all again for .jpg, .webp, and .png.

Anyway, I’ll let you know when I get it.

Not that I’m aware of, just communities that seem like they might fit, but don’t quite:

!communitypromo@lemmy.ca
!communityspotlight@lemmy.world
!newcommunities@lemmy.world
!newcommunities@discuss.online

I’m sure you could make a more meta-type post in one of these though.

A quick Google suggests you’re correct - big sites have implemented their own versions, but it looks like everyone has spent the last decade arguing with other about a CommonMark standard.

I think it’s because spoiler tags in lemmy have been custom-made for some reason, whereas all the other stuff is standard markdown. Voyager is a web app, so it can maybe only render whatever the engine it relies on can render.

Edit: Turns out I’m 2 for 2 on making incorrect statements in this comment.

I’ve compiled lemmy a few times - it’s fairly straightforward. I’ve tried to compile kbin before, but gave up bored and pissed off with the instructions - they seem endless, and like a big list of ‘edit this file’ (with no indication for whether you’re adding or updating info), ‘now edit this file’, ‘now go back and edit the first file again’. I know mbin isn’t kbin, but the instructions are the same.

I was trying because someone from there subscribed to a community I made just using ActivityPub, but nothing I’ve sent there has actually appeared. If you send the wrong stuff to lemmy, it errors. It’s not always the most useful message, but it’s at least a ‘400 Bad Request’, not the ‘200 OK {}’ you get back from kbin. What does it want? Does it not like ‘Create/Page’? Is there a problem with the content? I don’t know, because I can’t [be bothered to] compile it, and the tech specs for these 'bins lead to a 404.

Oh wow. That really illustrates it. Your approach to a social media site is very admirable (so much modern stuff assumes that just throwing more CPU cycles / RAM / bandwidth at the problem is a solution).

Flippin’ eck. Seeing a familiar Lemmy post on there, clicking it and seeing the whole thing render instantly was a bit of a shock after getting used to Lemmy’s more pedestrian loading of stuff.

Ooof. That makes me feel better about that time I accidentally brought ‘Test Post 1’ into production by commenting on it.

From the install doc:

My way around this is to use ngrok.com, which is a quick and simple way to create a temporary VPN with a domain and SSL. On the free plan your domain changes often, which will break federation every time you reconnect.

You can now get 1 free static url with ngrok’s free plan. The ‘free’ part of it is that it needs relaunching after a certain period of time (every 2 days, maybe?) but it works well enough to develop things.

For anyone else wondering, btw, it’s because lemmy expects all ‘id’ fields to be unique, so it would error if the inner object actually was a copy of the original vote.

I would argue that I’m not asking it to be a queryable thing or a datastore. I wouldn’t expect a community’s ‘Accept’ of a ‘Follow’ to contain loads of data about past activity because that’s not a logical or practical thing to encapsulate. For an Undo though, there’s already a small, fixed-length encapsulated object inside, consistent with how ActivityPub is used for other circumstances. Since it’s there anyway, I don’t see the value in it containing incorrect, made-up data, when it may as well have the correct data.

Well, for my own nefarious purposes, I would’ve preferred to have all the info in one place. I’m not using Lemmy or Mastodon, just messing around with ActivityPub, so it’s be easier not to have to rely on past data about who voted for what that I haven’t necessarily kept.

I was thinking of pinging the bot’s author about how dopey this bot can be, but’s he’s banned on lemmy.ml, so maybe not.

programming.dev changed how active users are calculated on their instance to include voters as well as posters & commentators. It’s a massive difference - programming_humor went from about 700 monthly active users to about 7000, for example.

Viewing communities from other instances from programming.dev’s perspective will give a figure that includes voting activity.

Yeah - this community, like some others, only supports ‘undetermined’ (aka unspecified) as a discussion language. You can see by running:

curl https://lemmy.kde.social/api/v3/community?name=kde | jq .discussion_languages

This gives an array with just ‘0’ as a value. Most other communities would give an array like [0,37] (for Unspecified and English), or [0,47] (for Unspecified and French), etc.

It can be fixed by a moderator - going into the community’s settings and using the CTRL key with the mouse to click both Unspecified and English.

No markdown inside spoiler tags will be likely be an issue for other posts too. (EDIT: found one)

As for Trending Communities I was mainly trying to use the tags to create an expandable section, like this:

But what Connect does (blocking all the text) isn’t technically wrong, so it’s understandable if you don’t want to change it. Auto-TLDR bot often uses the tag for the same effect, but maybe we should both wait for a new, more appropriate Markdown feature, rather than (ab)using the one for spoilers.