Funny thing is that the mainstream threads audience would probably do more harm to the mastodon ecosystem by orders of magnitude.
There is a big cultural disconnect. I’m active in both and they are very different communities by and large.
Absolutely spot on teardown of this joke article.
Yep I remember this pattern of behavior distinctly from last time.
One of the big ones that sticks out is you start seeing a lot of people claiming to be democrats or left aligned showing up all of a sudden and being big time concern trolls and talking about sitting out the election and/or claiming that there’s no difference between voting democrat or republican, which is demonstrably absolute horse shit.
And just a lot of added vitriol. It seems like even politically unrelated discussions get meaner and more argumentative. I expect it’s just gonna get worse as we get closer to November. It’s only the beginning February. Ugh.
Yeah I’ve encountered a few accounts lately who either have mental health issues or are bots designs to stir discord. Their entire posting history is divisive shit stirring.
Funny how every 4 years the internet gets markedly nastier. I wonder why???
Yeah agreed on the trending problem on Mastodon. In fact, as a whole it does a pretty poor job of serving interesting content without putting in some work. The only way I’ve been able to get a stream of stuff I actually want to see is by filtering a lot of stuff out and following a lot of specific hashtags.
I think the problem they’re wrestling with is definitely technical but also partly philosophical. Because when you start doing trending content, you start looking at some amount of algorithmic aggregation and that can get messy when you’re positioning yourself as a network that specifically doesn’t play the algorithmic BS game like the Metas and Twitters of the world.
Sweet post. To me this looks like the makings of a sustainable community and I remain pretty optimistic. Curious what the numbers for Kbin would look like.
Yeah unfortunately not quite what I’m looking for, but cool to see they’re there
I just hope the platform will expand into more niche content over time. The big topics seem to be news, politics, and some specific tech subjects. Would love to see arts/crafts/hobby related stuff take hold here as well.
That said, I do think a lot of the discussion happening here is pretty high quality and the place does seem to be improving over time. Time will tell. Hopefully more people wake up to the fact that reddit is not gonna hold up on the long term. I expect them to go IPO crazy this coming year and I don’t think a lot of the core users are going to like it.
That’s actually the most interesting concern I’ve seen raised about this. I hadn’t thought about that. The embrace, extend, extinguish thing is what you see most people raise as a issue.
Yeah the threadiverse has really improved for me in the last few months. It seems a lot more active with solid discussion happening.
Yeah the stream of stuff hitting my front page is a lot higher in quality and volume in the last few months. I don’t post on reddit anymore but still visit for content and I am doing that less and less lately.
Welcome to the fuckin internet and humanity in general, for that matter.
Keeping society enjoyable/safe/functional/etc is hard work by design. That’s just the way humanity is. Sucks it has to be this way, but we’re fundamentally flawed.
You patch one hole in your defenses against destabilization and another one will spring up eventually. It’s always a work in progress.
just more of reddit shooting off its own dick for that sweet sweet IPO
Yeah I completely wiped my account and don’t post anymore but I still browse the site because it’s just a hard resource to replace overnight. But if they kill off old.reddit it’s gonna be a lot easier to wean off of it. Killing Apollo has cut my usage back considerably as I no longer use Reddit on mobile.
So I think killing old.reddit will be a big step as will them seeking more invasive ways to pump revenue. It’s all downhill for that site from here out as far as I see it.
I don’t really agree. The thing is that Twitter is absolutely dogshit now for even regular old people. It’s chock full of rightwing bullshit and misinfo now and only premium users float to the top of comment threads and that filters for some of the worst people on the platform. It’s a majorly degraded experience. Twitter is also more of the moment and doesn’t so much serve as a library of archival information well categorized into subreddits.
Reddit on the other hand has pissed a lot of people off a lot but the average person is at the most a little annoyed and just kept using the site. And it’s still got 10+ years of backlogged content on it and tons of subreddits.
Also when someone leaves Twitter it’s like shutting down a subreddit in a way. So as more significant people leave, more people have a reason to also leave. Nobody can unilaterally shut down a popular subreddit in the same way that a really popular twitter user can unilaterally pull up stakes and move elsewhere. They’ll just open that sub back up and cram in new scab mods.
Point of the above is that Reddit’s decline is nowhere near as far as Twitter yet and it has a lot of stored value and built up communities that cannot be replaced overnight. That will take years.
Yeah I expect the same thing to happen. Reddit’s gonna keep pissing users off as they race for their IPO and so this will happen in waves. And when Reddit goes public and needs to start MAKING BIG NUMBER GO UP, the site is really gonna change and people are not going to like it.
Meanwhile the Fediverse and its lack of profit motivation, algorithms, and advertising is going to start looking real appealing.
It might take years. But it does feel like the Fediverse is holding on and has what it takes to make it on the long term.
The number of servers going down was an obvious eventuality. The actual work and cost involved running an instance is a lot heavier than many people would expect the minute said instance starts scaling up.
And almost nobody wants to put in the effort to run a instance just for themselves either and they’d also have to worry about all the stuff that goes with federating. Doesn’t make sense for most.
I just loaded the site to see for myself and the whole front page is literally all illustrations of naked children or children being fucked by adult characters.
You can mince words about what that content is all you want but it’s fucking cartoon child porn plain and simple.
It sounds annoying as fuck. I hate when my friends send audio messages in messaging apps.