• Sstadler06@lemm.ee
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        9 months ago

        People are just resistant to change because the GPM to YTM transition sucked when they released a half baked app

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    It is both funny and sad that Google has more or less trained me to never use their apps.

    At this point, I purposefully don’t use them because I assume they’ll soon be cancelled.

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      About two weeks ago I thought about this in regards to google podcasts.

      “Well this one will probably stick around long enough that I’ll have moved on by the time google shuts it down. They don’t even host the episodes anyway. They source the metadata and audio files from elsewhere. All they really host is my listening history, queue, and subscriptions. Certainly this is less likely to get the axe anytime soon.”

      *two weeks later*

      It really does suck though. I genuinely like the google podcasts app/website. Best one I’ve found so far that works how I like my apps/services to work.

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        Man I recently switched from podcast addict after years because podcast addict put an annoying nag about permissions changes in Android, plus I always had issues with the playlist/queuing. Guess I’ll go back to it soon

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    They pushed so hard for youtube music, which is nowhere near as good as play music was (had a subscription there…amazing little app, if you even remember that), that I forgot completely about Google podcasts. Spotify really marketed its podcast feature too well so I used that instead.

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      I don’t know how anyone on Android uses Spotify. That app is such dogshit.

      Also rip forever Google play music

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        9 months ago

        Honestly I think YouTube music is finally at parity with Google music. I’d prefer some of the fluff to go away (e.g. the comments, samples, & podcasts) but overall it’s gotten much better.

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          Can I upload my entire 600gb+ library to it for free and access it anywhere anytime?

          Auto cache? Redownload so it acts as a backup?

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            9 months ago

            I think you know the answer to that. That was a pretty spectacular feature that I never thought was going to last. Regardless of branding. Hopefully you uploaded your music and transferred it over to YouTube music before the deadline.

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              Yea I think all my music is on there, but the app is such garbage and unnavigable, I bought a 1tb micro SD card and said fuck that shit.

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                It is not an intuitive app to navigate. I would 100% rather have Google music but YouTube music isn’t as horrible as it used to be. That’s not a ringing endorsement but I’m glad it isn’t still a dumpster fire

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        I can’t argue with that, it was just useful to migrate my data across multiple devices. I badly miss the ui if play music, and I mean it.

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        You must not know many Android users then. Almost all the android users I know (like 90% of them) use spotify. And I think all the apple users I know use it.

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          I know many Android users who use it and I don’t know why. Apple music and Tidal music is better in every way.

          The Spotify app is so bad it’s embarrassing.

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            So first you say you don’t know any Android users that use Spotify, now you’re saying you know many Android users that use Spotify… so which is it?

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          The desktop apps suck but on mobile it’s the best music streaming service there is, imo. It has a few features I‘d like it to add but other services don’t have some key features that are much more important to me

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    9 months ago

    I only found and started using this app a couple of months ago wouldn’t have imagined it was on its way out

    Typical Google

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      GPM was dope, no two ways about it. I was sad when it closed.

      But after moving over to YTM and using it for years, I like the change. It lets me stream music, just like GPM. It lets me play local files and put them in playlists just like GPM. And it lets me put more underground music on my playlists that are uploaded to YouTube, unlike GPM.

      The UI and everything you interact with is way better than GPM too.

      Not trying to be a Google shill, but I actually love YTM. Podcasts coming just combines two apps I used into one.

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        I 100% understand what you mean. I still have a hard time trusting Google with their services and host my own RSS reader (TT-RSS) and music (Plex & Plexamp), but I do use YTM for finding new music as well as backing up my personal music like I did with GPM. Not a shill either, but YTM is not a bad product.

        I never really used their Podcast app as I assumed it would be closed at some point (and here we are) and really enjoy Pocket Casts. If that ever shuts down, I’ll just use GPodder and roll my own hosting for yet another service. I guess in the end, Google has taught me to be self reliant lol

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      Does anyone know why they shut it down? The replacement was worse on every single account. And by such a significant amount too.

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        2 reasons, but the main one is that they had to get separate individual licenses for songs or something and that was likely minimally cutting into their absolutely insane profits, but with YouTube music it’s still just YouTube so only one is needed… idk that’s what I read on Reddit a couple years ago. The other is that their workplace culture is completely fucked and they push new apps instead of updating the old ones.

        I’m not saying they should be like apple but sometimes seeing the killed by google list grow is frustrating when you look back and were an active user of a bunch of the things

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          I think you underestimate how expensive licensing music is. As an example, the vast majority of Spotify’s revenue goes to paying licensing fees and is most of the reason they’re wildly unprofitable

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    That’s just the Google way… still didn’t get over the RSS reader disaster… Anyways, I tried the app a couple of times: it’s not a great app for listening to podcasts. If you like podcasts, try Antennapod, Pocket Casts or Podcast Addict (and please stay away from Spotify).

    In the end: good riddance.

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      I never found a single use for RSS because I always found myself just going to the site anyway to read the full thing because 99.999999999% of RSS feeds are trash and it’s easier to just page through the site itself anyway. Podcasts… it feels like a massive waste of time listening to someone discussing something, usually poorly, with tons of exposition, diversions, and other BS. I’d rather just read something instead.

      Good riddance to both.

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        One use for RSS feeds is to distribute podcasts to multiple apps. I believe most podcasts apps are just RSS readers combined with an audio player.

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        Because Spotify uses (not their own) podcasts to generate revenue, but doesn’t pay the creators.

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            You might actually hear a podcast host say that if you listen to enough podcasts. I have heard it in the Bits und so podcast, directly from the host.

            Also, Spotify bought their own studio (Gimlet), for that they are obviously paying the creators.

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            Also, there is this wonderful specialty toy, I think it is called Google. You can search for things and find answers to urgent questions, all by yourself.

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          Every podcast does that.

          Also they host many podcasts and have their own advertising service which can insert ads dynamic ads into the podcast from which the Podcaster is profiting too

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    Sure, a video app makes much more sense for podcast delivery!

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    Spent a solid hour trying apps to switch to. Found podcast republic which does everything I want with tons of customisation and a one time payment to ditch the ads. Love it.

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      I’ve been using PocketCasts for years but I’ve been thinking about jumping ship. I’m going to give republic a shot. Thanks

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        I’m grandfathered in with lifetime premium on PocketCasts which makes it difficult to consider jumping ship.

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          I didn’t even know they have a subscription now, bought the app with reward points probably 5+ years ago

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        Try Podcast Republic and Podcast Addict, both are awesome.

        PA is more for power users.

        PR is more for regular users.

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          Tried both and settled with AntennaPod when there were rumours of Google Podcasts shutting down a few months ago.

          I now value more export/import features. I also enjoyed AntennaPod’s queue options more.

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            Antennapod rocks as well.

            I wasn’t able to settle with it for some minor reason I can’t recall, but it was a great app.

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      Been using Podcast Republic forever now. (~7 years)

      The developer did so much during the time. It allows you to do so much.

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      Might try it, does it have skip silence, per cast playback speeds and configurable start and ending skips?

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          Thanks for checking that man you’re the best. I’ll definitely get some podcasts transferred over and try it out after work tonight

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      Spotify sucks, but it doesn’t suck as bad as YouTube music does. I lost a few tracks in the conversion but it works so much better that it was worth it.

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        I ended up hitting YTM, then Spotify, then settled on Tidal after Google Play Music shut down. Nothing beats what GPM had