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mesamunefire@lemmy.world to Fediverse@lemmy.worldEnglish · 4 months ago

Fedi On Fire

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Fedi On Fire

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mesamunefire@lemmy.world to Fediverse@lemmy.worldEnglish · 4 months ago
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"Mastodon is so silent. Nobody's there except your two Linux nerd friends." EDIT: The feed has been shut down. More info: https://github.com/ronilaukkarinen/fedionfire/issues/8 https://fedionfire.stream #Mastodon #Fediverse #FediOnFire
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  • Kichae@lemmy.ca
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    People really do be needing to look at the Local and Global timelines. There’s a lot of chatter about regular, non-linuxy things there.

    Honestly, I think I’m completely sold on the idea that the Local timeline should be the default.

    • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.org
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      Honestly, I think I’m completely sold on the idea that the Local timeline should be the default.

      That’s already the case for a few instances

      • https://feddit.org/
      • https://jlai.lu/
      • Kichae@lemmy.ca
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        I know. But the post is about Mastodon.

        As far as I know, Mastodon doesn’t even support assigning a default feed.

        • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.org
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          Misskey forks do, if you are interested

    • PlantJam@lemmy.world
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      I love the idea of the decentralized services, but trying to browse global all is a nightmare. Even browsing local all I have a ton of communities blocked and add more every day. The only downside is when communities I like migrate to a different instance. I still try global all once every few months, but it never lasts long.

      • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.org
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        Subscribed should definitely be the main feed for most people, that’s the best way to get a curated feed.

        Getting multiple personal feeds would also help.

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          Discoverability is my biggest issue with the subscribed feed. If I’m using subscribed, I’m not finding new communities. Curating a set of base communities that I want to see does seem like it would be worth the effort, though. Thanks for the suggestion.

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            On Lemmy I browse Subscribed until I run out of new posts. Then I switch to All and look for communities to add. Over time I’ve been spending more and more time on Subscribed, as my list grows.

            This post is about Mastodon, I haven’t been able to figure that place out yet.

          • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.org
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            4 months ago

            You can have a look at

            • !newcommunities@lemmy.world
            • !trendingcommunities@feddit.nl
            • !communities@ponder.cat
  • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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    this is why I usually browse Lemmy in new/comments/all, I just wish it had more than one page at a time or the ability to set more posts in one page

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      Summit offers that, I’d imagine plenty of other clients do too

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        Pretty much every client I’ve used doesn’t handle hexbear emojis particularly well, so I stick to browser. I’ll give that a try though.

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          Summit seems to deal with inline images fine which I would guess covers that

          • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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            it renders them correctly - I just checked- but it doesn’t show the site-specific emoji picker, it just has a default plaintext one:

            • smeg@feddit.uk
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              I would guess that’s because it’s not standard Lemmy code, I think I read recently that hexbear uses it’s own fork to add things like that

    • Slueth@lemmyusa.com
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      Photon has infinite scrolling :). lemmyusa.com runs it

      • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.org
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        Hello,

        When are you planning to update to 0.19.8?

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          Here in the next few weeks. I want to ensure nothing breaks, but I really just haven’t gotten around to it.

          • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.org
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            Nice!

  • asudox@discuss.tchncs.de
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    This is so cool

  • smeg@feddit.uk
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    According to the feedback, I just shut down this project, perhaps permanently. Sorry for all the harm I caused.

    Anyone know if this harm was anything more than just hitting API limits?

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      There’s a pretty strong no-scraping (and scraping-adjacent) sentiment within Mastodon

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        People are upset that the things they posted publicly are viewable publicly?

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          The feeling is that simply having it be public isn’t an automatic license to re-use or “re-appropriate” the content outside of what’s required for normal network functionality. From that perspective, federating a post to a normal Mastodon / fediverse server = OK, viewing that post in your browser = OK, but many other uses = not OK.

          This subset of the userbase want the norm for “extracurricular uses” of people’s posts to be opt-in only, even for public posts. I kind of envy the idea in some ways (aggressive requirement of consent), though in the world we currently live in, it does seem unrealistic without a team of lawyers behind it.

    • mesamunefire@lemmy.worldOP
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      I have no idea.I tried yesterday to figure out what that ment…but the original site is down.

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    This is what people didn’t want. But it was inevitable that eventually that people would stop complaining about the newest iteration of this.

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    Well, not to shit on the idea too much, but right now as of posting, looking at ~100 posts in the feed and the majority are bots, automated posts, or otherwise “brand” posts, not just regular people, and a few are Threads users or bridged Bluesky/Xitter accounts.

    Doing a quick label:

    • Human: https://503junk.house/@pettylarcen/113799872963899948
    • Bot / Automated: https://flipboard.com/@thehindu/national-dkoomk3rz/-/a-Wrbuqb96QnuLzyLZOzNr5A%3Aa%3A2437248393-%2F0
    • Brand: https://jforo.com/@pg/113799872842675573
    • Brand: https://mastodon.social/@revistahamartia/113799873103967261
    • Bot / Automated: https://beige.party/@weird_prompts/113799872991959203
    • Bot / Automated: https://flipboard.com/@einvestidor/e-investidor-3hlliu9sz/-/a-qXSCrokETXuobrs7LeTyIA%3Aa%3A3418138642-%2F0
    • Human: https://techhub.social/@davey_k/113799873017718358
    • Human: https://social.vivaldi.net/@ladychelseaofthevoid/113799873046250477
    • Human: https://mastodon.social/@zandra/113799873097548123
    • Bot / Automated: https://flipboard.com/@einvestidor/e-investidor-3hlliu9sz/-/a-XeAr1Gw6Tzq_TloPwjtlfg%3Aa%3A3418138642-%2F0
    • Bot / Automated: https://mastodon.social/@Kochi/113799873124639124
    • Unknown Bridged Bluesky acount (it’s private and not in English so it’s harder to label): https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:crkrjt6p5j3jfvmyvtmgnflc/post/3lfddis6avk2u
    • Bot / Automated: https://mastodon.social/@onthisday/113799873284418993
    • Threads User: https://www.threads.net/@willianmax/post/DEnWuIvvG5n
    • Bridged Bluesky User: https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:dctqr7kcavgggjipg6s2xc56/post/3lfddip6ih22r
    • Human: https://douchi.space/@albusdumbledore/113799873324955194
    • Human: https://troet.cafe/@Verfassungklage/113799873394589676
    • Human: https://inari.opencocon.org/@matoken/113799873421069677
    • Bot / Automated: https://www.socialnews.xyz/2025/01/09/fadnavis-tells-officials-to-focus-on-completion-of-infra-projects-within-time-limits/
    • Bridged Xitter User: https://x.com/QBsMVP/status/1877426082275553391?mx=2
    • Bridged Xitter User: https://x.com/scottmerkin/status/1877426155701108895
    • Bridged Xitter User: https://x.com/CodyStavenhagen/status/1877426072259580060
    • Non-human Bridged Xitter User: https://x.com/TSN_Sports/status/1877426003338727654
    • Human: https://mastodon.content.town/@operationpuppet/113799873136927423
    • ???: https://masto.ink/@torontotv/113799873345457501
    • Human: https://chaos.social/@chris_gammell/113799873391924201
    • Bot / Automated: https://mastodon.social/@indie1023_playlist/113799873574333510
    • Bridged Xitter User: https://x.com/DOrlandoAJC/status/1877425955049767055
    • Non-human Bridged Bluesky User: https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:y2g5vymm2cvveec6cnspcvzo/post/3lfddivgl5f2j
    • Bridged Xitter User: https://x.com/kfitz134/status/1877426109018468540
    • Human: https://kafeneio.social/@norshgaath/113799873389635436
    • Bot / Automated: https://jb.md/@news/113799873554864843
    • Bot / Automated: https://hachyderm.io/@selfcare/113799873596733002
    • ???: https://mastodon.social/@EndIsraeliApartheid/113799873638378451
    • Bot / Automated: https://flipboard.com/@janettespeyer/glorious-islands-623snqlnz/-/a-6u8jQ1XER2iJNsaC0LHzqw%3Aa%3A76802984-%2F0
    • Unlabeled Bot: https://mastodon.online/@MTBotProfound/113799873683782913
    • Bot / Automated: https://flipboard.com/@ctvnews/atlantic-lgqhk918z/-/a-fZkbJZybQXGhrgdvRKcxpw%3Aa%3A2823982346-%2F0
    • Brand: https://mastodon.social/@KashmirFight/113799873720744097
    • Bot / Automated: https://bots.robots.rodeo/@orcspiration/113799873169974336
    • Brand: https://mastodon.social/@luxuryelitefinds/113799873675082571
    • Bridged Xitter User: https://x.com/NJDevils/status/1877426162068058396
    • Threads User: https://www.threads.net/@ernestoacostame/post/DEnWuZduJoc
    • Brand or Unlabeled Bot: https://mastodon.social/@Pahalikhabar/113799873753297734
    • Human: https://mstdn.social/@Ttubretep/113799873669338700
    • Human: https://fosstodon.org/@softlandinglinuxsystem/113799873694371626
    • Human: https://dice.camp/@Covok/113799873844076786
    • Bridged Bluesky User: https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:vpkw7cvu6eu742hvjk5wsxf2/post/3lfddj225h22x
    • Bridged Bluesky User: https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:2yuhperkb7ob5hhwshar4c5b/post/3lfddj5sxq32m
    • Bot / Automated: https://mastodon.scot/@railway_regret/113799873833612028

    That’s getting close to the 5k character limit, but you get the idea. This has actually negatively influenced my opinion on fediverse activity. I didn’t realize that such a high share of the activity wasn’t actually just “normal users”.

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      I have tried to use Mastodon, and I appreciate what is is, but I just don’t see the appeal. It feels like I’m trying to interact with nothing, and no one, ever seeing it. Feels like speaking to the void.

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