Lots of people on Lemmy really dislike AI’s current implementations and use cases.

I’m trying to understand what people would want to be happening right now.

Destroy gen AI? Implement laws? Hoping all companies use it for altruistic purposes to help all of mankind?

Thanks for the discourse. Please keep it civil, but happy to be your punching bag.

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    The usage of “independent thought” has never been “independent of all outside influence”, it has simply meant going through the process of reasoning–thinking through a chain of logic–instead of accepting and regurgitating the conclusions of others without any of one’s own reasoning. It’s a similar lay meaning as being an independent adult. We all rely on others in some way, but an independent adult can usually accomplish activities of daily living through their own actions.

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      Yeah but that’s not what we are expecting people to do.

      In our extremely complicated world, most thinking relies on trusting sources. You can’t independently study and derive most things.

      Otherwise everybody should do their own research about vaccines. But the reasonable thing is to trust a lot of other, more knowledgeable people.

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        My comment doesn’t suggest people have to run their own research study or develop their own treatise on every topic. It suggests people have make a conscious choice, preferably with reasonable judgment, about which sources to trust and to develop a lay understanding of the argument or conclusion they’re repeating. Otherwise you end up with people on the left and right reflexively saying “communism bad” or “capitalism bad” because their social media environment repeats it a lot, but they’d be hard pressed to give even a loosly representative definition of either.

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          This has very little to do with the criticism given by the first commenter. And you can use AI and do this, they are not in any way exclusive.

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            This has very little to do with the criticism given by the first commenter.

            How do? What would your alternative assertion be on the topic?

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              think for themselves and create for themselves without leaning on a glorified Markov chain

              If you think your comment and this are the same thing, then I don’t know what to say.

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                Well you didn’t respond to my questions and you’re vaguely referencing our other comments instead. It’s not effective communication and leads me to think you didn’t understand my comments. You seem to be into math, so I’ll put it this way,

                Be explicit, show your work: premises–>arguments–>conclusion

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                  Well I first replied to that first comment. Then people started making completely different claims and the point got lost in the sauce.

                  Edit: why should I take the time to formulate my thoughts well if you have demonstrated that you don’t give even the slightest hint of good faith to understand what I’m saying?

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                    Ah, I haven’t looked at others’ responses. I can see how responding to many different people gets messy.

                    But to answer your question, because I took the time to formulate my thoughts for you, and I responded directly to things you said in your comments. I also asked you directly “How so? What’s your alternative assertion.” Which was a good faith attempt to better understand what you meant.