I am so tired of being part of the YT algo. Is there a somewhat decent alternative to youtube? I already have Nebula but that doesn’t give me my news and show talking head fix

  • HollowNaught@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    13 hours ago

    I use freetube, an open source youtube frontend

    It’s not an alternative per se, but it does make youtubes shit easier to stand

    Front page is just all the videos from your subs in order of most recently uploaded. Super useful, especially if you find yourself missing out on videos from some of your less frequent uploaders

  • QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    19 hours ago

    One of the best ways to start getting away from YouTube is to use Grayjay.

    You can still follow content creators who are only on YouTube, but it allows you to curate your feed and mix in all of the content creators that do upload their content to other platforms like Peertube, Nebula, Odysee, Patreon, Twitch, Kick, Bitchute, Rumble, etc.

  • Battle Masker@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6·
    1 day ago

    Just want to add in terms of all the suggestions: remember that alternative can also mean “in addition to” as well as “instead of.” people wanting instead-ofs will run away from alternatives quicker, which radically hinders the “build it and they will come” momentum that these sites need to better alternatives in the long run

    • CrowyTech@feddit.ukEnglish
      5·
      21 hours ago

      That’s where I am with Lemmy right now. I still have reddit installed, I still dabble on Reddit but over time I’m finding I’m there less and less.

      This is the second time I’ve tried Lemmy and its much more successful, I think it’ll be my main social media.

    • Sorolainen@sopuli.xyz
      3·
      1 day ago

      Very good point. Many of these alternatives with less traffic are much better if one doesn’t see them as 100% replacements.

  • z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml
    211·
    1 day ago

    There are many ways around the YouTube algo. Look into LibRedirect , Invidious, NewPipe, and subscribing to channels using an on device RSS reader. Also look into yt-dlp if you’re savvy enough to use a command prompt/terminal.

    Alternatives all have their drawbacks. Nebula is the best IMO, but there are some gate keeping sort of practices going on over there regarding how creators are chosen to be platformed there.

    Floatplane is good for gamers and techies but ultimately supports the guys over at Linus Tech Tips, who have a bad reputation for their history of misogyny and grifting their audiences in various ways.

    Rumble is a conservative cesspool for people too hateful for the YouTube platform.

    And Peertube is the Federated alternative that has a lot of potential but nearly no traction and thusly there’s not a whole lot of content.

    Ultimately, I still watch YouTube (albeit less and less these days), via the platforms mentioned above like Invidious and Newpipe, using yt-dlp.

    I do hope Peertube and the fediverse continues to grow. These platforms on the Fediverse are the last bastion of a decent internet imho.

    EDIT: grammar.

    • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
      122·
      2 days ago

      Its impossible for me to subscribe to a youtuber because I don’t have (and don’t want) a Youtube account. I understand Youtubers get more visibility with more subscriptions, but I just don’t want to be part of the algorithm. I can close my private browser, and any algorithm infection is wiped clean from my view.

      • hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world
        171·
        2 days ago

        Depending on your setup, YouTube will still fingerprint your browser and track your behavior, as is common practice with ad networks.

        Your cookies and data might be cleared but as long as yt has any way to generate a unique identifier out of your browser preferences, it will identify you and start looking at your behavior / figuring out an algorithm.

        Just fyi.

        • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
          5·
          2 days ago

          Sure, it can start building it again just with what I search to watch. Then I get to close the browser again and wipe it clean again. I know that fingerprinting exists, but I’m not seeing its behavior for video suggestions. In fact, I do see tracking by IP because I’ll get suggested things I know my wife is looking at (and we’re coming from the same IP). Even those are few and far between though.

          • FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.orgEnglish
            2·
            22 hours ago

            I’ve thoroughly tested this and after a browser clear, I see literally zero recommendations that match my browsing habits. And this was tested without a vpn, so same IP. I’ve tested it on default chrome/edge. Also on tweaked firefox/librewolf, and on the YouTube app for LG webos. So yea, this is false. Idk why you’re seeing stuff your wife watches. Are you logged in with an account? If not then you’re not actually clearing the browser like you think you are. Unless you’re somehow more fingerprintable than me, just based on IP. But idk why that would be the case.

            • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
              11·
              22 hours ago

              So yea, this is false.

              I’m not sure how you can speak with such authority when your sample size is so small. I believe you that you didn’t experience this in any of your tests. However, your tests are far from exhaustive.

              Idk why you’re seeing stuff your wife watches.

              I’m not saying I’m getting a screen full of suggestions of only things she likes, but I also don’t believe it is simply coincidence I get occasional suggested video guides on using the exact brand of makeup she likes.

              Are you logged in with an account?

              Never have and never will.

              • FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.orgEnglish
                11·
                22 hours ago

                Well all I can say is i tested it every single way i know how. Also just tested on mobile, both iphone and android. Same result. So idk what you want from me? I don’t think it’s far fetched to assume that your wife likely uses a pretty popular brand of makeup. You’re probably not getting carryover ads. Just coincidence. Makeup videos seem like a pretty standard default youtube suggestion.

        • FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.orgEnglish
          2·
          2 days ago

          I don’t think this is true. Every time i reset the app on my tv, i see zero recommends that would fit my browsing history. Also I’ve tested it on 3 browsers (including default Chrome and edge) after clearing everything and it is default. Nothing i see recommended fits my history. So yea, no, this is not true. I’m sure they try to fingerprint but it doesn’t seem to work well or it’s just not sophisticated enough to track it through a browser/app clear. I’m not even using a VPN when i tested this.

      • iii@mander.xyzEnglish
        5·
        2 days ago

        because I don’t have (and don’t want) a Youtube account.

        Every channel has an RSS feed. I use that instead.

      • abbadon420@lemm.ee
        4·
        1 day ago

        You can download newpipe and subscribe there. It makes a local subscription, no account needed. Also no ads.

      • Sixty@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        2 days ago

        That’s fine, I’m not tempted by the sidebars to partake in the algo at all because I’ve removed them with extensions. Without an account, yeah then I’d be using NewPipe and whatever desktop equivalents are surely out there.

    • SanguinePar@lemmy.world
      1·
      1 day ago

      Thanks for the reminder, I really must change my bookmarks to this, such a simple change.

      Not viable for the mobile app of course, but even having the browser sorted would be a start.

      • Sixty@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        11·
        2 days ago

        Homepage. That’s where those complaints that people never see a youtuber’s videos “anymore” comes from.

    • Nindelofocho@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      21 hours ago

      Odysee is cool but is vulnerable to the same issues that youtube has iirc. Peertube I think is a federated version that would be less vulnerable

  • mesa@piefed.socialEnglish
    19·
    1 day ago

    !peertube@lemmy.world

    It’s still not as popular but it’s making headway with makers.

    Or if you want to stay on YouTube itself others have added clients that don’t have algorithms.

  • Holeshot75@lemmy.worldEnglish
    17·
    2 days ago

    Yes!

    If you have a Linux OS on a PC then Freetube is a terrific desktop app.

    You can import your subscriptions from YT there.

    If it’s only ads that you hate then Revanced mobile app is the way. Unless you are on iPhone - then it won’t work. It’s Android only.

  • hash@slrpnk.netEnglish
    8·
    2 days ago

    No. Though I think it’s important to separate video serving Youtube and recommendations/algorithm YouTube. We need FOSS solutions to both and neither will be easy.

    • asudox@lemmy.asudox.devM
      3·
      1 day ago

      That’s not an alternative. It’s just another frontend.

      edit: didn’t see the youtube algo part. Mb

  • BreadOven@lemmy.world
    6·
    2 days ago

    Inside newpipe. No feed or homepage (as long as you set it to that), just a list of the channels I’ve subscribed to. I just manually go through them if I’m looking for something to watch.